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《大群 第一季》经典观后感10篇

  《大群 第一季》是一部由诺亚·霍利 / 迈克尔·乌彭达尔 / 拉尔沙·康达基 / 蒂姆·执导,丹·史蒂文斯 / 珍·斯马特 / 麦肯锡·葛雷主演的一部剧情 / 动作 / 科幻类型的电影,文章吧小编精心整理的一些观众的观后感,希望对大家能有帮助。

  《大群 第一季》观后感(一):希望漫威此剧能越来越好

现在是超级英雄满屏飞的年代,漫威霸占了大屏幕,DC用一堆无脑的电视剧霸占了小屏幕。
看着隔壁DC越来越好越玩越大的电视剧,漫威也坐不住了,紧急给每集平均预算6万刀的神盾局特工加钱,每集多加5千,还是不行?我也搞一堆小成本!没电视台愿播?我直接给纳飞给葫芦!
于是漫威砍了一批又开了一批电视剧,但始终没有产生非常轰动的效果。
终于拥有漫威x战警版权的福斯也出手了,在福斯利用x战警系列10部电影赚的盆满钵溢后,开拍了x教授的儿子的故事——大群,又叫军团。
冰血暴的编剧,还有冰血暴的几个演员,尤其是珍斯马特,刚出来那气场,我以为是M夫人朱迪·丹奇被他们请来了。还有神似英雄里的主角皮特破查理的唐顿庄园大表哥:
这一刻皮特破查理灵魂附体,并使出无数被皮特复制的超能力

  《大群 第一季》观后感(二):终于等来了!史上最屌的超级英雄

(本文由电影派dyp833原创
精神分裂、多重人格、脑洞大到突破天际,
X战警、灵魂互换、史上最强精神病。
仅仅是这些关键词就足以让爷荷尔蒙爆棚了——
这部X战警衍生剧终于在万众瞩目之下出世了。
刚刚出了第一集,豆瓣评分就爬到8.7,烂番茄新鲜度94%。
本剧的导演诺亚·霍利,人称高分美剧收割机。
《冰血暴》、《识骨寻踪》皆出自他手。
男主角则由大表哥丹·史蒂文斯饰演。
忧郁深情的水蓝色双眼,雕刻的面庞,由内而外的贵族气质
从《唐顿庄园》里的完美公子哥,到和艾玛·沃森合作《美女与野兽》,小哥一路星途璀璨。
这一次,成功被漫威看中,成为钦定的又一个漫威超级英雄。
既然爷已经放出话来,这部剧将成为漫威剧里的最屌存在,就绝不是空穴来风
好莱坞报道者评价此剧——
从已被广泛接受的漫画产物独立出来,让这部剧能保持一个更加实际化和聪明的故事线。这是一次从X战警和超级英雄幻想的精心而大胆的逃离。
剧集一开始,就是奔着让人血脉喷张、无法冷静去的。
男主虽然长了一张逆天帅气的脸,但从小总有人在耳边不断地给他输出负能量——
你不是个好孩子,你怎么不听话?
你真蠢!你疯了!没人在乎你!
直到有一天,他受不了了,企图自杀。
得救后被诊断患有偏执型人格分裂症,成功地被送进了精神病院。
前一秒还正常的坐在精神病院里,下一秒就躺在一个自由落体的床上。
这种分不清梦境与现实的癫狂状态就是男主的常态。
男主以为自己疯了,但原来他是一个非常强大的变种人,而他分裂的人格就是他的超能力所在。
这就要说到男主究竟何许人也?
男主David是X教授的儿子。
对,就是那个在漫威世界里拥有心灵感应和精神控制超能力的逆天教授。
在去年的大片《X战警:天启》当中,一美饰演的X教授已经在大银幕上和世人见面了。
如果说X教授已经很牛X,那他的儿子David简直就是不可超越的终极牛X。
按照漫威原著漫画的说法——
David天生拥有数千种人格、数千种能力,能够不断安排不同人格登场作战。
其中最强的两个人格,一个是可以心灵控物的冒险家,另一个是可以操纵火焰的叛逆少女。
作为X战警系列的衍生剧,这部剧集就是呈现这个拥有终极超能力的超级英雄David的故事。
说完人设,我们来看看第一集的高能剧情。
男主David在精神病院里对女主一见钟情
自带邪魅狂狷属性的女生,不能和别人有任何身体接触。
男主问——能不能当我女朋友
女主答——可以呀,但是别碰我。
男主一直强忍着不啪女主,终于在女主即将出院的时候忍不住吻了她。
果然是漫威,亲一下都能搞出灵魂互换。
原来女主也是超能力者,她的超能力是通过身体接触,实施有限时间内的灵魂互换。
不知不觉中,两人又变回了自己。
接下来,男主被一个神秘组织捉去研究超能力。
最后被女主所在的另外一个貌似正义的超能力小队救走。
漫威和DC这两大超级英雄输出帝国一向不缺钱,不缺炫酷的特效,不缺能打的英雄,缺的是精妙绝伦的剧本和更加丰满的人设。
目前,关于超级英雄的电视剧剧集——
《神盾局特工》、《绿箭侠》、《闪电侠》
恕爷直言——
这些剧集全都是给巨婴们准备的玩具,和奥特曼打小怪兽并无本质区别。
他们无一不是智商感人,动不动就宇宙最强超能力 、一言不合放大招,一直处于编剧对不起剧中猛男的胸肌的状态。
但这一部,似乎能打开超级英雄电视剧的僵局。
不同于以前,本剧的悬疑剧情走向非常值得期待
目前看来,男主仅仅曝出了意念控物的超能力——
另外上千种超能力和上千种人格都还披着神秘面纱。
而正邪两队争夺男主的较量也才刚刚开始。
第一集,仅一个小时内,就有三条时间线穿插——
男主进精神病院前、在精神病院里、出精神病院后三个不同时间段被完全打乱顺序。
再加上男主第一视角的回忆和预示未来的梦境的不断穿插,
这样的剧情设定赋予了这部电视剧烧脑的资本。
仅仅对于第一集,就有人表示看懂它比搬完30吨砖更辛苦
剧中还有很多足见导演和制作方功力的小细节。
例如精巧诡谲的转场——
前一秒男主用来自杀的电线,下一秒就变成了温馨燃烧的生日蜡烛。
在办公桌前被审问,镜头下拉就回到了男主在精神病院的房间。
这让观众对于男主的精神分裂产生强烈的代入感。
再比如男主具有设计感的台词、
以及标志性的小动作。
这些都让这个超级英雄人设更加丰满、具有挖掘性。
穿上紧身衣就能上天入地的超人们,早就不是我们所爱。
我们需要更加立体的活生生的人。
就像剧中男主一样,懦弱胆小、为情所困,甚至是个精神病、怪胎。
这也是满口跑脏话,会被敌人捅菊花的贱萌英雄片《死侍》如此受欢迎的原因。
要知道,拥有烈士情怀的专职拯救世界的超级英雄们,
经典都只能成为大片化时代的一个符号。
当超级英雄一抓一大把的时候,谁还愿意静静地看着你们装逼啊?
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  《大群 第一季》观后感(三):反漫威常态的拼图网状剧能否持续精彩不被砍?

按目前剧情的走向来看,这部漫威的反漫威爆米花大片式超级英雄剧是需要带着智商看的。

此剧用了碎片化的网状非线性叙事,摄影色调构图意外惊艳,剧情设定非常大胆,完全不像漫威的超级英雄片倒像高逼格烧脑悬疑片。

虽然此剧含着金汤匙托生在光芒万丈的漫威家族下,还是有些担心导演的大胆尝试能否持续高开高走抓住观众的心:网状叙事会把故事打碎的太过零散,需要观众后期自行脑补组装结构,而且虚实双线结合导致碎片中情节可能不完全是真的,还要观众分辨哪些是现实的哪些是虚幻的,剧本身的结构对观众提出了一定的要求;又因为不是电影而是周播剧集,每集只会给一些打乱的时间线中的一部分,估计会有相当一部分观众会因为错失了某一集或记不住细节,无法回忆拼凑起完整剧情----毕竟听说美帝观众更喜欢连续性不是特别强的单元剧。

详细点举例,从已出的e1.e2来看,这个剧像是一个用一系列拼图交代的故事(拼图1.拼图2.拼图3.4...),每隔一周给观众各个拼图中的一部分,如果不回看,需要盲记住每周给你的拼图是哪些。应该是在最后,观众需要把每周给的零散拼图,分别组成一个个完整的拼图,然后再把这些拼图排序以呈现完整的时间线。plus现在还不好说每周给观众的拼图都是真实发生的,有些是虚拟想象的,正常的时间线外还要把虚幻的想象划分出去,单组成一个系统(但这对于剧集来说又上升了一层烧脑,毕竟是个超级英雄剧,所以目前看似幻听幻视也许都是真实发生过的?只看了2集还无法确定编剧用哪招)。

Anyway ,看此剧,带着智商,集中精神,保存记忆是很重要的,所以等出了一半以上一起看也是不错的选择。

ps.剧集多处致敬各种经典电影剧集挺有趣,需细心发现。希区柯克的配乐风,发条橙的发条精神病院,蓝色毒品的绝命毒师[偷笑]看到时不禁想到小粉自演的某个恶搞视频,谁都知道蓝色就是好货

  《大群 第一季》观后感(四):Notes

Ep1
Timeline:
Childhood: happy kid. had fun with friends and family.
                   developed super power, mentally troubled and caused chaos(including broke cop
                   car windows) in juvenile years and sent to mental hospital.
                   in college broke down and committed suicide - by himself. no noose.
Adult: back to hospital-Clockwork for 5 years. got birthday cake from sister.
           met Syd.
           caused chaos in bed, sedated by nurse. dreamt playing with sister in childhood.
           group therapy, dated Syd.
           when Syd was about to leave touched her, exchanged body and caused lockdown(saw
           The Devil) and Lenny’s death.
           when "Syd" went out saw the mutant team the first time but was not tracked down by them.
           escaped as Syd. changed back to David. went to his sister's house.
           went to check whether Syd was still in Clockwork. found and was tracked down by the mutant
           team. lost them and was captured by gov.
           was interrogated. Syd saved him and the mutant team helped him escape.
Seems Syd went to Clockwork to rescue David. Possibly that was her mission and she was planning to bring David along with her when she went out and got picked up by the team. But things went wrong and she was locked up by herself and the team thought David as "the girl" was just Syd so they went straight to look for "David" hence let the real one out and into actual danger. When they found out about the mistake they went back to track him down but was late just a minute and David was captured by the gov. -> Confirmed Ep2.
Real Ones or Not:
Kissinger: Real.
Lenny: not sure.
            Real evidence: The Interrogator confirmed Lenny is dead.
                                      Syd talked to her when she was about to leave Clockwork.(Or Syd
                                     can see David's other personalities?)
                                     Kissinger can see her.
           Not Real evidence: David saw her in the basement and she disappeared. Or it's his
                                           creation/imagination after witnessing the real Lenny's death.
Sydney: not sure.
              Real evidence: Kissinger can see her. In group therapy. Or Kissinger has super
                                       power and can see David's creation? -> not possible since he can not
                                       tell David and Sydney apart after they exchanged body. Or is that deliberate
              Not Real evidence: No record in Clockwork. -> Invalid since David's record was also wiped
                                              out in Ep2.
                                              When she visited David's room at night, the door opened but no actual
                                              feet stepped into the room.
The Interrogator: real.
Powers:
David: create(?) several personalities?
           control things.
Sydney: exchange physical appearance when touched. (if she is not real, then it means David can
              also change his appearance-not only lifeless things he can control)
When David saw The Devil:
when he messed up the kitchen in college.
when he(actually Syd) was in the red lighting during facility lockdown.
when he escaped to the shore.
It seems that he would see The Devil after he fully releases his power?
Questions in order:
Are the people scolding teenager David in the rain his other personalities?
WHO is the woman walking past behind David when he tried suicide?
Are the old people David saw when his sister visited real or imaginative?
*What is the vinyl like thing: pill with number 03 in the cup? What are all those flashbacks: hands closed on face(child, teen David), scary man with angry face mask, the man in the forest? -> 1. That's child David scared of the "angry face man"(Ep2). 2. Child David saw the "angry face man"-who looks exactly like "The Angry Boy" from the book(Ep2). But who he is?
"How does that make you feel": the first appearance.
Vinyl appears the second time.
Dream with PJ.
"How does that make you feel": the second appearance.
The old people second appearance.
When did the scene David sitting alone by a long table happen?
"How does that make you feel": the third appearance.
**What is that gas-producing frog? A humidifier? -> They(David and Lenny) did drugs using it(Ep2).
*Why David in dream saw his breakdown in college in red lighting? Haven't seen the lockdown yet -> Oh, the "present" David has already seen it. Mixed up memories possibly. -> But it was Syd who actually saw the lockdown(Ep2)! Problem here? -> Maybe not since David is telepathic. But he can only hear what they thought or can actually see what they saw?
Why child David?
*Why saw the lockdown? -> The "present" David has already seen it. -> It was Syd who actually saw the lockdown(Ep2)? -> David is telepathic. But he can only hear what they thought or can actually see what they saw?
"How do you feel": the fourth.
Why David(?) eating the long seaweed like thing scene? with "The Devil with yellow eyes" line.
Why the lighting in dreaming-David's room turned red? Just in dream not in real life probably, but what does it imply?
What’s the hole on the floor in David's room?
Why child David floating-happened in childhood or was just mixed up memory&reality?
"How does that make you feel": the fifth.
What did David do to Dr. Poole?
The man in the forest: second appearance. Before dinner. Just a weird patient thought he was a tree behind the display window on the wall?
Now Syd wore headband. Two shots with Syd across-dinner time.
Syd dance move-Bollywood dance dream material?
Child David with sister shot.
Why in the kiss scene the lighting turned red again?
"How do you feel now": the sixth.
"Do you still feel you have power over things?"
Dream scene with PJ again: can David foresee the future? When he dreamt he saw Syd in the outfit the day she left, and Syd in red coat with a stranger(WHO is that???).
What is Liquium? The gas.
Where/what place is the gov facility and who are the people sitting in sofa chairs on the stage and what were they watching? Apart from the people in front of the monitors.
Speaking of the "Commander" in front of the monitors, what is in the red-lighted(again?) cage in front of him? A dog? What's so special about it?
Where or what is “Red Hook”?
Exactly what would trigger David and cause power release? Furious? Depression?
*Who is the "Guard" by the Interrogator and what it implies he has heterochromia iridum??? It seems that he has a higher rank than the Interrogator. Why he carved a DOG? -> He was called "The Eye"(Ep2)? Does he have power too? If so, what power?
What did David and his girlfriend fight about? The voices he heard, were they from his other personalities or other people, did those happen at present, in the past or in the future, or, mixed up?
Why did the kitchen scene mix up with facility lockdown scene? Does this mean (past)David can see the future? Or just (present)his memories mixed up.
When Syd was about to leave, David was not in his room yet he managed to look from quite a distance into his room and knew she was going to leave. Is that also his power?
**When David was about to kiss Syd, he could hear her say "David, no" but she actually did not move a single lip? Can he look into people's minds or is Syd telepathic? -> It's David's telepathy power.
Why when David and Syd kissed, he saw all his past(childhood and so on)?
**When it was lockdown time, did the red lighting scene happen then or in other times? If the "David" is Syd, how could she see what David saw? And how could she seal all those doors? -> It seemed when they exchanged body Syd had David’s power then but she could not take full control of it. So she accidentally killed Lenny and sealed herself behind the wall and also saw The Devil.
*Why did David kill Lenny? Is it that he could not fully control his power yet? And why did Kissinger put ears against the wall-what was the voice he was expecting? -> Same with the answer above. The former 2 questions.
Did David think it was the Interrogator coming out of the car because the Leader(Melanie) didn’t want the gov to know her existence so altered David’s memory? But later on when David was in the pool he could remember that it was the Leader not the Interrogator. Is that also memory manipulation since the rescue team had already come to the scene then and were sure that the Interrogator did not have enough time to make David spill the beans? Or just bad memory?
Why David passed out on a piece of glass on the ground and it seemed there was a very deep hole under it? Just cool cinematography?
Who/where is David’s mom? Was the "David where are you" line said by his mom or Syd?
*In David’s (past)dream(and present unconsciousness), he dreamt he did a Bollywood dance with Syd(in PJs, of course). And the Syd-sitting-across shot(dinner, remember?) in red lighting. So is the "David wake up" line from real telepathic Syd? Or his subconscious? -> Possibly David heard it since he is telepathic. So Syd knew it already?
The gov wanted David but they found out about Syd so they wanted her then too? Or they mostly wanted Syd in the first place but got David instead and that was not bad?
**The mutant team came to rescue David or Syd? Seems they were to rescue David so they let the "Syd" David go but got "David" Syd instead. However if it was to rescue Syd, how did she end up in Clockwork in the first place? -> Yes they were here for David. Syd was in the plan.(Ep2)
Why was there a DOG walking past just before David appeared in the shot(and stopped right there in the center of the screen for a minute) when David tried to hide away from the mutant team? Accident or a clue?
*Syd on a man's backhead-is she real or imagined by David? Seems real? Means her soul can get into other people's body and communicate through its host? -> David's telepathy power. But why the weird face-on-backhead thing-who did that? David?
*Why repeated lines? "How do you feel" was in a dream so understandable, but the dialogue between David and Syd that weirdly repeated twice? Almost exact dialogue. Was there time rewriting or traveling? What "projected" means? Is Syd able to get into people's memory and guide them from there? -> Makes sense after Ep2. Possibly first rescue failed(but then David should be? Dead?) and then time traveling Dr. Vacon+Syd rewrite what happened.
*Why suddenly the gov men were all nervous? Did David cause it or the rescue team? -> Guess some mutant can do this: make people nervous. But who exactly? Didn't appear til Ep2?
What is the light and whose power is it?
Why the transition from Syd/team by the pool to Syd/Lenny/nonny? When did David fall on the floor? Here Syd wore the headband. Did this happen when they went to (date)dinner?
Who's this extremely helpful guy that can remove things(and people!) with just a lift of finger?
Why was David strangled by a soldier and next shot the soldier was dead on the ground and David already marched on?
Most importantly: The Devil with Yellow Eyes???
Weird things:
Baby David with Toy Devil.
When Lenny "visited" the basement, then disappeared and the sister came down to check upon David, Lenny showed up in the mirror on the floor.
Fun facts:
When David waked up in the pool, behind him it wrote “Diva” on the wall.
Amazing things:
The window-reflection kiss
Possibly important characters:
The Interrogator/Commander/Guard
The mutant team: Kerry Loudermilk, Ptonomy Wallace, the very-useful-rock-moving guy and Sydney Barrett
The Leader: Melanie Bird(what’s her power?)
Ep2
Timeline(cont'd with ep no.):
Childhood: 1 happy kid. had fun with friends and family.
                   2 dad read the book. so scared of the "angry face man" that possibly the first time
                      (unconsciously)used power.
                   1 developed super power, mentally troubled and caused chaos(including broke cop
                   car windows) in juvenile years and sent to mental hospital.
                   1 in college broke down. broke up with girlfriend.
                   1 committed suicide - by himself. no noose.
                   (following events before suicide or after?)
                   2 visited shrink. met junkie friend Lenny. got the "Vapor" by selling the stove. when he
                      and Lenny did the drug he saw the Devil again.
                   2 learned Amy was going to be married.
                   2 visited shrink again. talked about the star gazing trips with dad. this time the door
                      opened and the shrink was murdered by the Devil?. took out his own records and
                      fled.
Adult: 1 back to hospital-Clockwork for 5 years. got birthday cake from sister.
           1 met Syd.
           1 caused chaos in bed, sedated by nurse. dreamt playing with sister in childhood.
           1 group therapy, dated Syd.
           1 when Syd was about to leave touched her, exchanged body and caused lockdown(saw
           The Devil) and Lenny’s death.
           1 when "Syd" went out saw the mutant team the first time but was not tracked down by them.
           1 escaped as Syd. changed back to David. went to his sister's house.
           1 went to check whether Syd was still in Clockwork. found and was tracked down by the
              mutant team. lost them and was captured by gov.
           1 was interrogated. Syd saved him and the mutant team helped him escape.
           2 arrived summerland. shook hands with Cary and passed out. Melanie taught him to focus on
              single voice-to "tune in" to different people.
           2 memory work with Ptonomy and Melanie. where he saw the bedside childhood memories
              with dad, shrink visit, and Lenny with the stove. woke up besides the polar bear specimen.
           2 talk with Syd on swing at night.
           2 memory work with Ptonomy and Melanie again. this time continued and saw he and Lenny
              doing drugs and seeing the Devil part. here they went back to the "glitch" part. from there
              they went to the "angry face man" childhood memory.
           2 talk with Syd by the river at sunset when he realized he is telepathic.
           2 memory storage MRI scan. recalled the memory works he did and what he remembered in
              those sessions. then he recalled what happened next-he talked about the star gazing trips
              and then the closet door opened.
           2 still in MRI, sensed Amy was being captured by Division 3 meantime. first time managed to
              make two way communication-Amy vaguely heard him calling her name. Cary left and saw
              the Devil again.
           2 woke up on a slab-not in MRI machine.
           2 lying on bed remembered the Devil? killed the shrink.
           2 planned to leave to rescue his sister but stayed instead-Syd talked him out of it.
           2 "The Eye" interrogated Amy(eels?).
Power:
Ptonomy: Revisit some people's memory(need to connect via the table with knobs to bring others(include memory owner) to the memory)
                Make people sleep
David(cont'd): TELEPATHY.
Characters:
Amy: David's sister
King: David and Amy's dog
Cary: Seemingly telepathic, doing MRI scan for David.
Kerry? Martial arts?
When David saw The Devil:
1 when he messed up the kitchen in college.
1 when he(actually Syd) was in the red lighting during facility lockdown.
1 when he escaped to the shore.
2 when he took drugs with Lenny.
2 when he was in MRI machine and sensed Amy was captured.
It seems that he would see The Devil when he was in high stress mental state?
Questions in order:
The Summerland: "did not exist"?
The heterochromia iridum man: "The Eye"? What's his power?
*Why David and (who is the man?) shook hands then he passed out? -> Dr. Cary? Because he is also telepathic?
**What's the cubic room they were waiting in while David was unconscious? -> The elevator.
Division 3?
"Rewrite life"?
*David's father died last year? CHARLES Xavier????? Astronomer?? -> He "meant it like a metaphor" about stars talking to him. So he is not Charles right? Then who he is?
Does the story David's father told mean David killed his mother???
*"Lightning"? What is cut off in this part? "The Vapor"? -> "Vapor" is a new drug(like what they took). "Lightning" is the college breakdown flashback. And the cut off part is when the door opened-why this would be cut off?
*David eats Twizzler??? When did the Shrink/Lenny part happen? College? Before entering Clockwork? Why stole a stove? Lenny lesbian/bisexual -> Stove is for drugs.
Why during memory work childhood memory cut to the shrink conversation and why David woke up besides the polar bear specimen display? Not in the same room?
What is talk work?
David is key to what else than war?
"Dr. Vacon's time travel class"? Who's Dr. Vacon-one of the mutants in comics?
Who's the flashing silhouette appeared during the conversation b/w David and Ptonomy?
Syd's mom was mean to her?
Syd heard what when she was David? Which the mutants and Divison 3 also heard?
*Who's the doctor doing scans on David? He has the same power right? And what's the scan for? -> To figure out David's memory data structure in head.
What is it about why the drug is blue? And the lion head on sofa armrest? Parrot? Mannequin? Means nothing or?
WHY David saw the Devil after using drugs? "Red leather yellow leather"?
When the memory work team got to the "glitch" part they went straight out of THE DOOR where the Devil came out. Coincidence or? But that's a closet door not an actual one?
Who's the "angry face man"-like from the book? He also appeared in the flashback memories in Ep1. Why only the book was taken out-is it David's fear projecting into reality? The fear that he would hurt his mom or anybody he is close to?
Was it the child David or the adult David that made the house shake?
**"But I'll protect you" WHO said that? Not Syd? But it's Syd's voice? Like what happened when they were about to kiss in Ep1? -> Yep. He can hear others' thoughts. So a lot in Ep1 make sense now.
What did the stars say exactly?
*The door is open-why and who or what made it? -> Guess it's the Devil. But why? What it needs-it sliced across the shrink's face??
So David can even hear his sister miles away. Very strong telepathy?
David saw the Devil in MRI machine. But why then? And why David woke up and he was on a slab? Not in the machine?
The tanks and so on on the table behind Melanie-so it really is a war? That's their enemy's equip or theirs?
What is that thing seemingly dropped out of the sky?
*What are those CD/DVDs in the drawer? And the shrink sitting in the dark? -> David's records. And the shrink is DEAD with wounds on head. But why is it already nighttime? When he visited it was daytime apparently.
"Going up""Descending""Down": so the school is half underground?
What is the place they brought Amy to and what are those eel like things?
Is Syd somewhat related to Rogue?
*: Half solved question
**: Solved question
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I thought the show went straight downhill since there was barely any plot advancement after episode 2 and there was no need to write down all the details anymore. I was wrong. Plot advancement is not what this show is about from the very beginning. Or in other words, this is what the creators deliberately put before our eyes-different narrative structures, confusing time/space jump and twists, dazzling cinematography-just like what the characters went through and struggled to make sense of in the storyline. And boom, the truth, the final resolution, finally the character growth and we can actually feel how hard/irritating/confusing/intolerable the whole journey is. A sensory approach like none before. Neat, isn't it?
I'll revisit the episodes and pick up interesting details later on.
This is still an amazing show-just not what we're used to, something audaciously new.
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  《大群 第一季》观后感(五):大群Legion终极剖析,揭秘镜头隐藏的一切

写这一篇是因为现在网路上有超多关于大群的谣言和误解,并且在可以看到的评论里——无论喜欢或不喜欢这部剧的言论——都存在许多描述的剧情与实际剧情根本不符合的情况。我个人非常希望无论想看这部剧、还是已经看过这部剧的人,都可以轻轻松松地欣赏所有的剧情,无需耗费任何心力,此文可以完美实现这一点。这部剧其实很简单,除了常见的谬误之外,相信也有很多人都和我一样把它看得清楚明白,只是大家都和我一样忙……没错我们死宅其实是很忙的……嗯,算了。

这一篇不会像网路上随处可见的所谓影评人那样,不管看懂没看懂,随便贴一些炫酷的图,乱抓几个镜头胡讲八讲。我不会做这种毫无意义的事。本文内容主要是两件事:

详解所有剧情——揭秘每个镜头带来的信息。

解剖所有镜头背后隐藏的信息——揭秘整个故事的脉络逻辑。

本篇已更新完整季内容。

  《大群 第一季》观后感(六):David能力详解

相信很多人看得糊里糊涂的吧,我觉得如果了解David的能力可能会对看这部剧有所帮助——
       在X战警里,通常当拥有两种以上的超能力时,会被称为Omega级变种人,比如电影里大家见过的琴和天启。Omega级既拥有“修改现实Reality Warping”的能力,如何理解呢,举个例子吧:第一集里的疯人院事件,Syd在David体内时能力失控,所有病人被封闭在没有门的房内,那这并不是一种能力能够实现的,首先得摧毁门,可以使用火烧,也可以瞬间移动,那摧毁之后需要分析墙的信息,然后复制和延伸墙来填补之前的门,再然后需要瞬移每个人回到自己的病房。所以这“一个变化”实际上用到了至少三种超能力,那这种多能力的施展就被看作“修改现实Reality Warping”

  《大群 第一季》观后感(七):大表哥这次超性感,果然精分是一种new sexy

诺兰的四条时间线我们都挺过来了,还怕千种人格的X教授傻儿子吗?

今天要说的就是这部美剧,超级英雄片里的另类,有点迷幻有点电影质感的《大群》。嗯,漫威一生推!⬇️

  《大群 第一季》观后感(八):E03 为什么主人公是仙鹤,七仙女下凡的故事

文章开头就提到了渔夫和仙鹤的故事。
其实这有是通过一个象征性的比喻来暗示剧情发展的故事,仙鹤在替渔夫制作精美织物赚钱的前提情况是不被发现是一只有法力的仙鹤,如果一旦被发现,仙鹤就会消失,但是为什么被发现了就会消失呢?因为仙鹤虚化成正常人,而仙鹤想成为渔夫家的正常人的女儿,这是仙鹤在报恩情况下的基础前提,而仙鹤一旦被发现是仙鹤,态度就会转变,想象一下渔夫对他的态度会有何转变?从日常温情对待的态度转变为尊敬和恐惧,而仙鹤仅仅需要的是一个正常人的身份,被正常的对待,这是仙鹤内心的真实意愿和渴望,从而他警告过渔夫,不要去偷看他织布,但是渔夫被好奇心渐渐泯灭了对仙鹤的承诺,他打破了承诺,也打破了仙鹤宁静的生活,所以结局沦为仙鹤飞走,渔夫不仅丢失了财富,也丧失了一个女儿。
可以说这是一个取与舍的问题,承诺的取舍,财富的取舍,情亲的取舍,自由的取舍,身份的取舍。
而这个故事也同样象征着主人公的内心世界,不过大家的焦点都放在主人公其超级能力上,他也在取与舍,他也在苦苦挣扎。虽然这一天突然被打破了,他被人抓走了,和仙鹤的受伤象征着主人公被困住了,他需要有别人帮助他,而疗养院的这群人则是渔夫,帮助主人公逃离困境,帮助主人公和治疗主人公,并且帮主人公变成他们社区的一部分,当然这个社区全部都是不正常人,而他们帮主人公转变成他们认为的“正常人”,也就是帮助他发掘能力并且控制能力,而仙鹤故事中的财富,也象征着主人公的回报,财富是她将会帮助疗养院获得战争的胜利,而且故事中间仙鹤变回正常人和渔夫的互动,之间有情亲,主人公也会收获到亲情,也就是和女主一起在成长中相爱和保护女主,而最后当主人公的能力被充分得到大家的认真,并消灭了恶势力,他也就重复恢复自由,永远的飞走了。这是一个本我被发掘,最后成为自我的故事,仙鹤一开始就是仙鹤,而主人公一开始就是超能力者,他本来的面貌。而原来无能的他,只是沉浸在普通人中痛苦的幻象中不断地下沉的一段经历。
第三集13分左右,女主的话连起来的凸显了女主人的爱情价值观,而第一集她和主人公和医生的聊天就可以看出,她是内敛型加抗拒型的思考者,她对别人的意见是有思考能力的,她抗拒一切主流思想带来的价值灌输和诱惑,并且抗拒医生了解自己,并且不喜欢主动表达自己的真实感受给对自己有偏见的人,追平等交流,第三集十三分中,明确她想要的也是一个灵魂伴侣,表明了她注重灵魂的感受力,而不是肉体,不在乎肉体的快乐。
亚里士多德将幸福分为三类,1:来自于外面的幸福,2:来自于肉体的幸福,3:来自于灵魂的幸福,女主注重第三个,男主至今为止注重第二个,并且其人格极其容易受外面的影响,伴随着情绪不稳定。
13分男主的反应是什么?之后他说换位时就可以能摸她手了,而这时其实男主人公有的反应是理解,但其实内心并不是完全赞同,因为他说换位之后就可以能摸她手了,第一集也有情节表明男主极其渴望去触摸女主,其实男主依旧习惯于注重肉体的快乐,从习惯性的依赖毒品刺激肉体来打发无聊的生活,丧失人生的意义,但是我相信主人公在之后的生活中会慢慢成长的,毕竟最后结局是掌握超能力,打败坏人,灵魂骨子里自己还是享受普通人的生活。
不过放在现实中,看清性格前提,我不觉得像女主人公这样性格的人会喜欢上男主,可惜万事皆有可能,因为如梦幻影似电视,女主人公有主见,知道自己是谁,有判断能力,克制自己,男主人公没主见,易被影响,感情冲动,不喜欢克制自己,喜欢疯狂一把,从相对来说,这两个人性格是互补的,但女主看着有点弱弱落落的,被渴望保护,特别没有安全感的女性,最吸引女主的是男主比较感性,并且走后期的话,男主开始有了超能力,能够保护女主了,这对情侣就make sense了。
而人的命运的差别,1:人是什么,广义来说是指人格,也包括气质健康美道德品格理智以及教养(主人公“人格”数不清,基础建筑决定上层建造,起点比别人高太多)2:人有什么,财产以及所有物(主人公有队友,有超能力)第三:一个人在他人的评价是怎么样的。(超能力者,人格紊乱,至今迷茫,不知想要什么,曾经追求肉体刺激(毒品)来打发无聊空虚的生活,现在追求新意义,没什么主见的人,判断能力也差,极其容易感情冲动,可以从多次想不顾危险去救姐姐的想法中看出,不过正是这些性格特征对应了第一集女主所说的,“这些才成就了你才是你,而不是别人”)
仙鹤依旧仙鹤,只不过现在主人公还不仙,也不险,颜值倒是挺鲜的,不过第三集最后10分钟氛围塑造的极好,感觉完全变了一个画风,和第二集差的不是一点和两点。

  《大群 第一季》观后感(九):本剧有成为神剧的潜质,不过那些想要看到如电影大片那般既刺激又快节奏的朋友请绕道

本片之所以吸引人不是其特效和情节有多么精彩,而是在于它怎样呈现一个精神病患者所经历的一切,哪些是真实,哪些是虚假,哪些是现在,哪些是回忆,哪些是主角David扭曲了的回忆,这些都需要咱们动脑去分析,说白了这就是一部烧脑剧,请不要当它是一部超级英雄片去看待,期望看到如复仇者联盟这样的大场面的朋友注定会是失望的。还不如静下心,分析下剧情,说不定随着剧情发展还能有个小惊喜。现在刚看完第四集,目前能确定的有:1. David目前已经展现能力有:心灵感应,意念控物,瞬移,创造精神世界,而据漫画原设定他是omega级变种人,可以吸收别人人格,派不同人格作战,超能力多达千种以上;2.David是个“unbelievable narrator”,大部分我们在剧中特别是他的回忆看到的不一定是真的,如他的毒友在他回忆中是女的,但到第4集才揭晓从他前女友了解到原来不是Lenny而是个男的Benny,编剧在这里明显给我们提示David的回忆不一定可靠,也就是说他的记忆可以伪造,至于为什么会伪造这应该跟他潜意识保护自己有关,但还要看后面剧集揭晓;3.Department 3是一个要捉变种人的机构,目的估计是猎杀或控制变种人为其效力,暂时看作反派,其中有一位变种人(那个拷问主角姐姐Amy的男人)为其效力,能力第四集有所展现,貌似是扭曲别人的视觉(如设局骗主角女友和记忆大师等人,使别人把他看成是David的医生)而且可能还有控制别人脑波或记忆的能力(如他用手按住记忆大师脑袋弄晕他和在主角前女友记忆中嵌入了一个人片段引记忆大师一行人到海边小屋找他);4. 关于主角的人格,目前已经出现的有:他本人主人格,黄眼恶魔,愤怒男孩,Lenny和狗狗King,根据漫画设定主角有吸收别人人格的能力,人格可以活在他精神世界里面,而且里面的人格还可以杀害其他人格,所以我认为小狗king和Lenny应该是后来吸收的,而黄眼恶魔和蜂蜜男孩等明显看起来不是现实世界能存在的本身很大可能是主角创造出来的人格,也就是主角本身真的是个精神分裂者,不过他是个有超级强大超能力的精神分裂者;5. 可以告诉大家电视上的“父亲”不是主角的真正父亲X教授(而且X教授本身也不知道有他这个儿子,大家可以百度下),有可能是养父,但也有可能是主角本身创造出来个一个人格!因为这是他回忆里面的,前面说过,记忆可以伪造,试试想象下,有哪位父亲会给小孩讲这么恐怖睡前故事,有人怀疑说会不会是他继父不喜欢主角故意吓小David折磨他,但David也向我们展现了他继父好的一面,常带他去看星星,给主角讲星座名字。因此,可以推断这两个父亲有可能不是同一个人。6.之前在其他帖子看到个分析,说记忆里给主角讲恐怖故事的父亲本身就是主角创造出来的人格,目的是掩盖本来事实真相,也就是伪造记忆对自己进行保护,特别是主角潜意识下会毁掉有可能暴露事实的证据,例如他吃了那些他和他医生对话的录音带,表面上他是为钱财杀了他医生,事实上是他关于星星究竟说了什么这个话题不小心谈了很多,结果杀人灭口,对于这个分析我是认同的。可能有人问为什么,究竟是什么样的事情主角不想回忆或要隐藏。结合目前电视展现的和漫画设定,我们已经可以了解到人体精神会有一套自我保护机制(具体可以参考盗梦空间),人在受到巨大精神刺激时候,如重大事故为了让自己不奔溃而出现失去记忆,即把那段不幸记忆删除,更别说主角这个本身拥有强大超能力的人格分裂患者,不过他不是删除而是替换,把真实记忆埋的更深,呈现给我们的是假的记忆。那究竟是什么事故呢,很不幸,目前猜想是主角小时候杀死了他自己的妈妈(电视剧已经有很多暗示了,最明显的就是愤怒男孩这个故事,仅仅因为妈妈叫他睡觉他就把妈妈头砍了),推测现实中他小时候可能因为某次因为妈妈的责备什么的不小心生气觉醒了能力把妈妈误杀了,极其内疚,深受不住打击于是就出现了以上伪造记忆,用于为自己开脱,意思是说看,我妈妈的死不是我的错,都怪我“父亲”给我讲这么恐怖的故事,都怪那个黄眼恶魔,是它杀了妈妈。但不论是愤怒男孩还是黄眼恶魔每次出场都只是起到吓唬主角的作用,并没有伤害主角,因为它们本身就是主角人格一部分,只是保护机制中的一环,但它们对于其他外来者就不一样了,例如当记忆大师和梅姨和主角女友进入主角记忆每到关键时刻快要掘开真相是它会出现捣乱,如摇动房子,追赶女主,当梅姨翻看愤怒男孩故事书,故事书自动夹伤梅姨的手使梅姨惊醒,所有的一切都是为了掩盖真实记忆。7.再说说人格Lenny,之前有人猜测她可能是黄色恶魔变的,怎么说呢,有可能。不过我不太认同,我还是倾向于她是后来进入主角精神世界的一个人格,不过她的确有带坏主角的倾向,其实主角也发现了说了好几回你本应是我的朋友,可见主角主人格也察觉到这个Lenny和他精神病院的Lenny有所不同,她更加像主角真实世界里的毒友Benny,都教唆主角做坏事,所以我怀疑她其实是Benny人格被吸收了,而不是真正的Lenny, 至于为什么大家看到的是Lenny,那是因为主角本身就以为他们是同一个人,赌友Benny就是病友Lenny,所以他记忆中Benny以Lenny的形象出现就不奇怪了。有人可能会反对说主角怎么能控制别人性别,不过我再次提醒,这是主角的精神世界,他连记忆都可以伪造,构建各种虚假的精神世界,更何况是某个人的面孔呢。8.女主为什么可以看到黄眼恶魔和其他人不能?我初步猜想是因为男主真心爱女主,在乎女主对他的看法。现实中男主听到女主要进入他记忆时第一反应就是反对,后来他对女主说怕女主进入记忆看到以前的他(如他吸毒,偷窃,甚至杀死医生)就对他看法不一样了,可见主角的潜意识是不想别人发现真相的,尤其是他喜欢的人女主,不想他看到自己丑陋的过去。于是她是保护机制优先要排除的级别,要尽快除掉,于是她受到了特别对待,不但黄眼恶魔,连愤怒男孩人格也重点驱赶她,就是不想她探到真相。由此可见记忆保护机制可以调整,可以根据情况对某些人优先派出,例如本身梅姨也没感到地震没看到黄眼恶魔,因为她威胁揭开真相程度还不够,但她不小心翻开那本愤怒男孩故事书时候就不同了,故事书合上夹变形了她的手迫使她醒来。最后,说声,手机打字真心累,欢迎真正喜欢这部剧的朋友提起讨论,不惜喜勿喷。

  《大群 第一季》观后感(十):我乱说的

给三星有些苛刻了,但是第一,拍摄方式很明显在致敬一些电影,叙事方式也有创新新颖独到,但是实在是乱,细想全是bug,比如Oliver怎么能知道这边发生的一切说救就救?扣一星。第二,里面所有的女性全部刻画成了必须依附男性的角色,男性的离开要么使她们念念不忘终生追随要么耍小脾气,扣一星最后一集几个where r u right now直戳戳让我耳边回响起where r u now..... 可怜怪物大boss,打不过教授从小附身在小孩子身上结果小孩子更强大还附有天生的主角光环更打不过,捞半天是一张佟掌柜的脸。真的不是闫妮抽空去美国当了回大boss?标题都想好了,震惊!半老徐娘闫妮时尚资源争霸赛或成最大赢家,入驻漫威竟还与大表哥....! 六七集大表哥实在是帅炸天,太棒了我又多一个墙头哈,哈,哈!说起来,虽然我挺喜欢艾玛的,但拍美女与野兽的时候同是英国人的丹丹龙美音比艾玛好太多了。我在影院听艾玛那个音我有些尴尬。嗯,特别是第七集丹丹龙英音美音自我调侃的时候真的可爱疯了!

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